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More research on which pitchers have longer careers. [link]

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  • tangotiger tangotiger
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    In order to have the same FIP, the high-walk pitchers will either have very high K, or somewhat low HR totals.  It would be good if you can provide the full stat-line: BB, HR, K per BFP, as well as BABIP, for the before and after.

     

    Posted 2/21/2008 [reply] [flag]
  • stevet stevet
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    Excellent article, David.

    One quibble:  the excerpt of the note from your reader, in which Sandy Koufax is paired with Pedro Martinez as a "little guy," goes unchallanged.

    Where in the world does this notion come from that Koufax was a little guy?  He wasn't little at all, in either height or build:  he was tall, broad-shouldered, big-butted, and muscular.  His size and build, in fact, were almost exactly equal to that of Nolan Ryan.

    Posted 2/21/2008 [reply] [flag]
  • GuyM GuyM
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    David:  More good work.  In your second study (BB rates), I wonder if the greater longevity of the low-BB group might hide a superior performance?  If they played more time in their mid-/late-30s, they would have an age decline missed by the hi-BB group (especially if the hi-BB group disproportionately had their careers cut short by injury).  So it might be interesting to compare the two groups' FIPs over a limited age range, maybe 26-31, if sample size doesn't get absurdly small.  

    And I second Tango's request for the breakdown of BB, K, HR and BABIP, pre- and post-age-26 (for the first study too). 

    Posted 2/22/2008 [reply] [flag]

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