Conlin's Losing Numbers

• McLovin

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  Bill Baer is the greatest man to step foot on the earth.

   He also happens to be a very good writer.

  Posted 11/23/2007 [reply] [flag]

• Juke

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  Conlin once ripped me a new one for mispelling his name. Unfortunately he was correct. . .. As for using Hitler as a reference, maybe that's the only one he has! Last sports guy to invoke Uncle Wolfie was Tom Coughlin, remember? maybe it's a ' guys whose names end with -lin thing! '

  Hey Bill! I spelled your name right this time.

  Posted 11/24/2007 [reply] [flag]

• DSPN

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  I am not sure if it is write of us to bash this fat fckk.

  Posted 11/25/2007 [reply] [flag]

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Crashburn Alley: Conlin’s Losing Numbers
Published 11/23/2007 at BBTF's Baseball Primer Newsblog
Crashburn Alley: Conlin’s Losing Numbers I can’t help it, I love Bill Conlin. Conlin’s delicate E-mail answers to Bill B’s questions… Know what, pal? Bash this. . .Tell your bloggers, my career against theirs. . . and the gagaroostic second ... Don’t you need to contact the 30 electors–including the two Mets beat writers–who failed to give write a single first place vote instead of a commentator who does not vote for the awards. You’re a Mets fan and you had your little bubble of arrogance and smugness burst. Your team choked big time, an epic gagaroo. At least the 1964 ...

Barry Bonds vs. Bill Conlin…
Published 11/23/2007 by John Brattain at The Progenitor of Severe Gluteal Discomfort
... I read up on the various blogs by like-minded fans. I don’t limit myself to just those either; if I need information or insights I am not shy about reading up on the sites blogging about other teams. I also frequent sites that cover off other aspects of the game whether it is the business, legal, statistical side etc. of major league baseball. Anyway, I was catching up on a favourite Phillies site (Crashburn Alley) and noticed a post describing the author’s (Bill Baer) interaction with Phillies columnist Bill Conlin. I am not going to dissect ...

Bill Conlin’s Deft Touch With The Public
Published 11/23/2007 by GC at Can't Stop The Bleeding
... , “prooof that excess Twinkie intake does indeed affect the brain!” Crashburn Alley’s Bill B. — an avowed Phillies fan — is amongst those who’ve argued the Mets’ David Wright was a more deserving choice for NL MVP than Philadelphia’s Jimmy Rollins. Sadly, Bill chose to take this argument up with the Philadelphia Daily News’ Bill Conlin, who wasted little time replying, “Tell your bloggers, my career against theirs. . .” Here’s a few more pearls of wisdom Conlin chose to share with a relatively civil ...

Create The Caption #119
Published 11/23/2007 by Awful Announcing- at Awful Announcing
... look so happy together. We had that once, didn't we? What happened to us? Isiah, do you still love me?"- Anon ________________________________________ Are you funny enough to make a caption for this photo of a Ducks fan sending a message to Dennis Dixon? (Via SI Photos) Daily Links: Last Day At Maui, And A Chat With Bilas (Rumors and Rants) Fantasy Football Meets D&D; (Cake Rocks The Party) Journalist vs. Blog- Round 312 (Crashburn Alley) Romo = A-Rod? (Tickets of ...

Bill Conlin Probably Just Shouldn't Use Email At All [Bill Conlin]
Published 11/23/2007 by Leitch at Deadspin
... and old. It's not really fair to them -- it's not like bloggers are trashed by their colleagues every time they criticize a newspaper guy -- but these are the rules we play under. But hey, it happens: Their arrogance sometimes gets the best of them. Today's fun entry: The Philadelphia Daily News' Bill Conlin, who wrote a ridiculous column that mocked sabermatricians, a column that was amusingly taken apart Fire Joe Morgan. Crashburn Alley emailed Conlin, rather gently, all things considered, and his response was somewhat less measured. ...

Bill Conlin: Professional A-hole
Published 11/23/2007 by dajafi <info@thegoodphight.com> at The Good Phight: Front Page Posts
... The proprietor of Crashburn Alley, a well-regarded Phillies blog, communicated with Conlin to ask about Bill's recent article defending Jimmy Rollins' MVP award win. See here for the full back-and-forth (and see if you don't agree the questioner had much the better of it) but Conlin's last reply is the nut: ...

Biggest Douche in the (Baseball) Universe
Published 11/23/2007 by stoeten at Drunk Jays Fans
... If you're like me, you've been following today's hilarious exchanges between the Phillies bloggers at CrashburnAlley, Bill Conlin, a columnist Philadelphia Daily News, henceforth to be referred to as Dick Griffin's long lost retard brother. ...

The Philly Daily News will tell you exactly what you can do with your “wishful fan numbers”
Published 11/23/2007 by Coley Ward at umpbump.com
... And that was just the beginning. Conlin has (so far) emailed Crashburn three times. And each email is better than the last. You can read them all here. ...

Bill Conlin, crotchety old man
Published 11/24/2007 by Adam J. Morris <info@lonestarball.com> at Lone Star Ball: Front Page Posts
... Most notable is Conlin's ranting about how statheads think Range Factor is more important than fielding percentage, even though true statheads haven't used RF since the mid-90s. Better yet, though, is his exchange with a blogger (who is a Philly fan) who wants to know why Rollins is a better choice than David Wright. Conlin's emails consist of blogger bashing and general insults about his correspondent being a bitter Mets fan, and concludes with this brilliance: Ummmm...okay. It will be interesting to see how his corporate overlords react... ' You are not logged in. In ...

Bill Conlin won't be invited to the party
Published 11/24/2007 by 100% Injury Rate at 100% Injury Rate
... . Crashburn Alley sent him some relatively benign emails, and Conlin responded in a tactless way - multiple times. He even managed to bring genocide and Hitler into an email. The easy thing to do is to rip Conlin and make fun of him. But since Conlin's already accomplished that for us with his ridiculous emails, there's really no point. ...

BILL CONLIN NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP
Published 11/24/2007 by kranepool at Kranepool Society :: A New York Mets Blog
... I saw where a Phillies blogger wrote him to make his case that Jimmy Rollins did not deserve to win the NL MVP over David Wright. Now the blogger wrote to Conlin very politely and professionally identifying himself as not just a blogger but a Phillies fan as well. Here was Conlin’s response: ...

Bill Conlin was probably dropped as a child
Published 11/24/2007 by Ryan at The Victoria Times
I usually don't get too worked up about the whole journalists hate bloggers thing, becau se frankly, this is how history has transpired. A new opinion or method of information dissemination comes about and those that had made their living the old way have always resented the new way. Like I said, this is the way it goes, I'm not going to get too worked up about it. Well, that is until Philadelphia Daily News columnist ended an e-mail chain with Crash Burn Alley with this little number: The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have ...

Philadelphia Sportswriter Invokes Hitler
Published 11/24/2007 by Al <al@bleedcubbieblue.com> at Bleed Cubbie Blue: Front Page Posts
... called our attention to an email exchange that another Phillies blogger had with Philadelphia Daily News writer Bill Conlin on the topic of Jimmy Rollins' MVP award victory and ...

Philadelphia sportswriter Bill Conlin invokes Hitler in admonishing a blogger!
Published 11/24/2007 by Fooch <ninersnation@gmail.com> at Niners Nation: Front Page Posts
... article from CrashBurnAlley.com, a Philadelphia Phillies blog.  Apparently the writer at CrashBurnAlley.com wrote to Bill Conlin in regards to voting for Jimmy Rollins for MVP.  This Phillies blogger (again PHILLIES BLOGGER) was trying to explain why a guy like David Wright (among others) deserved the MVP award over Jimmy Rollins.  The two emailed back and forth that say Bill Conlin go absolutely crazy in his condemnation of bloggers.  Here's a link to the blog post, which details the background of the initial email and the subsequent ...

Bill Conlin Really, Really Hates Bloggers
Published 11/24/2007 by Dave the Falconer <info@thefalcoholic.com> at The Falcoholic: Front Page Posts
... If you're not a Phillies fan or a Pennsylvania resident, you may be blisfully unaware of Bill Conlin's existence. Being neither of those things, I too didn't know much about him. After I read this happy little post, I wished I never had. If you don't want to read the entire back and forth, here's what Conlin allegedly ended on: ...

Bill Conlin - sigh
Published 11/24/2007 by Bill Ferris at BaseBlogging
... The whole chronology is detailed in: crashburnalley.com » Conlin’s Losing Numbers [UPDATED: See end]. The story is as old as time. Columnist slams sabermetrics despite poor understanding of the concepts. Blogger writes email to columnist. Columnist says that he’s smarter. This one went a little farther though in the exchange with Conlin ultimately dropping this response: ...

Bill Conlin Is a Fine, Upstanding Human Being
Published 11/24/2007 by Gonzo <info@dailynorseman.com> at Daily Norseman: Front Page Posts
... , a Philadelphia Phillies blog, wrote Conlin an e-mail critical of an article that Conlin had written in support of Phillies' shortstop Jimmy Rollins winning the National League Most Valuable Player Award this week.  You can read the entire exchange right here. ...

Phillies Fan Slammed By Journalist Over David Wright
Published 11/24/2007 by Anthony De Rosa at Hot Foot
Bill Conlin of the Philadelphia Daily News invokes Hitler in his response to Crashburn Alley Phillies blogger who wrote Conlin to endorse David Wright for MVP. Conlin writes The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers.  Read the entire exchange on Crashburn Alley. Share This

Philadelphia Daily News’ Bill Conlin finds something positive about Adolf Hitler
Published 11/24/2007 by Maddog at Another Cubs Blog
... praising Jimmy Rollins and arguing that he was indeed the MVP despite lots of complaints that I’m sure you are familiar with. A Philly fan who runs a Phillies blog sent Conlin an email. Conlin is unable to argue why Rollins is the MVP and resorts to personal attacks. Here’s most of that post: ...

Everyone Get Back to Your Corners
Published 11/24/2007 by Doc at Balls, Sticks, & Stuff | Phillies, Eagles, golf and other matters of great importance...
So let me get this straight, Bill Conlin . You are siding with Adolph Hitler over Thomas Paine ? As you may have read already, Conlin got into an electronic brouhaha with the author of Crashburn Alley : The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers. In Colonial times, bloggers were called “Pamphleteers.” They hung on street corners handing them out to passersby. Now, they hang out on electronic street corners, hoping somebody mouses on to their pretentious sites. Different ...

Two Wrongs, No Rights, And Why Bloggers Still Struggle For Respect
Published 11/24/2007 by Jeff <jbingham@gmail.com> at Lookout Landing: Front Page Posts
... about why Jimmy Rollins deserved to win the MVP. A Phillies blogger disagreed with the idea and sent Conlin an email, asking why Rollins was a better candidate than David Wright. The exchange that followed was inflammatory and less than eloquent, and the blogger decided to post it in full on his website. This has since attracted a lot of attention, and in no small part because of Conlin's Hitler reference, countless people have been taken aback and voiced their desire to see Conlin out of a job. Such behavior is completely inappropriate and offensive, they ...

links for 2007-11-24
Published 11/24/2007 by billfer at The Detroit Tiger Weblog
... John Brattain synthesizes my thoughts about Scott Boras rather succinctly. crashburnalley.com » Conlin’s Losing Numbers [UPDATED TWICE: See end] And we thought we had it bad with McCosky. Bill Conlin shouldn’t email anymore. ...

The Oilers are pretty much selling jeans here
Published 11/24/2007 by mc79hockey at mc79hockey.com
...   ^ I’ve heard and seen some snarky media/blog exchanges in the hockey sites I pay attention to (in fairness, I’ve also had some very friendly email exchanges with media people.)  Things seem a little rougher in the baseball world - according to Philadelphia Daily News writer Bill Conlin: The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers. The full story is here.

Bill Conlin Update : Some Of His Best Friends Are Jews!
Published 11/24/2007 by GC at Can't Stop The Bleeding
... If you ask me, this whole throwdown with Crashburn Alley is going to have a chilling effect on the willingness of mainstream journalists to ...

Conlin Proves to be an Idiot
Published 11/25/2007 by StatsGuru at Baseball Musings
Blue Room Blog | Main November 24, 2007 Conlin Proves to be an Idiot Bill Conlin would like bloggers wiped out . While some are going to rightly upset by the Hitler comment , the real problem is that Conlin doesn't respect the free speech right of bloggers. As a newspaper man, he would be the first defending them. Posted by David Pinto at 07:27 PM | TrackBack (0) Comments Post a comment Name: Email Address: URL: Remember personal info? Yes No Comments:

Bill Conlin Would Like to Wipe You Facts-Having Bloggers Off the Earth
Published 11/25/2007 by PostmanE at FanHouse
... As of yesterday, the excellent blog Crash Burn Alley's interactions with Philadelphia Daily News columnist Bill Conlin cast Conlin in a pretty negative light. After all, Conlin was openly arguing with -- and losing to -- a blogger on the merits of his pro- ...

The Last Word
Published 11/25/2007 by Ryan Brodeur at The Hot Corner
... got into a rather heated exchange with columnist Bill Conlin of the Philadelphia Daily News over the legitimacy of Jimmy Rollins' National League MVP Award. Long story short: ...

BASEBALL: Smorgasbord of Idiocy
Published 11/25/2007 by Baseball Crank at Baseball Crank
... , you really have to go read Phillies blog crashburnalley's email exchange with Bill Conlin (you may remember Conlin as the dumb, obnoxious, loudmouthed guy from ESPN's The Sportswriters, which is saying a lot in that crowd). Honestly, I was surprised to learn that Conlin had email. This is a highlight: ...

Bloggers 1 Sportswriters 0
Published 11/25/2007 by joe at Mets Today
... Now, I didn’t think I’d ever give the former German dictator space in my blog, and don’t intend to at any point in the future. If the correspondence posted on Crashburnalley — which you can read in full here — is in fact legitimate and not some blogger looking for cheap inbound links, then either Conlin is a) incredibly paranoid; b) a total jerk; c) a stupid jerk; or d) all of the above. ...

THROWING LINKS
Published 11/25/2007 by BD at EPIC CARNIVAL | SPORTS NEWS WITH A TWIST
by BD, Staff Writer Throwing Links is the Epic Carnival's weekend link dump. Coming to you every Saturday and Sunday morning. Send all submissions here. This week's Cheerleaders is Eagle Girl Maria because I figure the Eagles fans needed something to hang their hat on heading into the Pats game. 10. All those wins Marion Jones piled up juicing officially didn't happen. (Steroid Nation) 9. Apparently, Hitler would have wiped us all out (bloggers) if he were still around. (Crashburn Alley) 8. Arod has ...

Published 11/26/2007 by Aaron at AaronGleeman.com
... Speaking of esteemed Baseball Writers Association of America members, long-time Philadelphia Daily News columnist Bill Conlin apparently isn't a big fan of blogs: ...

Monday’s Basically Top Five Blog Links
Published 11/26/2007 by Jamie Mottram at Mr. Irrelevant
... Bill Conlin v. sports bloggers. The Philadelphia Daily News columnist emails, “The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler’s time on earth–I’m sure he would have eliminated all bloggers.” ...

COTM: Missouri wins; Devin dazzles; Conlin confuses
Published 11/26/2007 by PostmanR at The Postmen // A Sports Blog // Chicago, IL.
... I’m not going to get into this much because it’s already been dissected ad nauseum by others who are far better writers than me. But, I will say this: I don’t mind if Conlin disagrees with CBA and sticks by his points; that’s warranted. But seriously, dude, did you even read any of the CBA’s e-mails? If you’re going to start throwing around the “bloggers suck” mantra, at least try and do so with some vain of intelligence, please. ...

Braves, Braves and more Braves.
Published 11/26/2007 by Coley Ward at umpbump.com
... again and he’s writing a book. Did you know that Nixon has twin sons named Travian and Travion? The AJC also has a feature that talks about how Tom Glavine’s pay has paralelled the gains made by the players union. If you missed the press conference, Glavine has decided to earn $11 million this year, rather than $13 million, because $13 million was just too much pressure. Crashburn Alley, which recently brought you Bill Conlin uncensored, today takes a look at why Andruw Jones is the most valuable ...

Dodger Thoughts: =40
Published 11/27/2007 at Baseball Toaster
... broadcasting Josh Rawitch is putting all Dodger bloggers on the PR department's what-can-we-do-for-you list. "As messengers of everything Dodger, you should have as much information made available to you as the mainstream media when you're 'covering the team,' " he said today in an e-mail. The team is still gunshy about offering bloggers credentials to cover games, but if any team figures to get out in front on this eventually, it's Rawitch's. Given the events of last week involving Bill Conlin , events so sordid in my mind I couldn't muster the energy to properly address ...

Bill Conlin Wishes You Were Dead
Published 11/27/2007 by Wrigleyville at wrigleyville23
... This is a few days old, but see the fascinating e-mail exchange between crashburnalley.com and Philly Daily News columnist Bill Conlin about whether Jimmy Rollins or David Wright should have been NL MVP. ...

Hitler Hated VORP
Published 11/28/2007 by redsock at The Joy of Sox
... A Phillies fan who writes the Crashburn Alley blog emailed Conlin and made the case for David Wright of the Mets. Conlin was not very polite in his responses. Indeed, during the discussion, Conlin wrote: ...

Mainstream Media Apologizes to Mario Williams for Irresponsible Reporting
Published 12/13/2007 by Stephanie Stradley at FanHouse
Filed under: Texans, NFL Media Watch, Houston, ESPNLately, journalists have criticized bloggers for being overly emotional and non-factual (Bill Conlin) and for "wrecklessness" (Steven A. Smith's spelling, not mine). Ultimately, I believe that neither bloggers or journalists have a monopoly on truth and responsibility. We are all just humans, with our own biases and blindspots and emotions and often deadlines, and that you judge the quality of writing not based on what someone's profession is, but rather on the content of what they are ...

Should Jose Reyes hit more ground balls?
Published 12/13/2007 by Dave Studeman at The Hardball Times
... , bunting and smacking the ball into the ground. Castillo, by the way, only produced .06 runs per ground ball for the Mets last year. Do you really want Jose Reyes to bat like Luis Castillo? But hey, as Bill Conlin might say , what do I know? So I decided to look up some more Reyes batted ball info from ...

Beijing Kicks off Anti-beggar (blogger?) campaign
Published 1/3/2008 by A.S. at East Windup Chronicle
... Since bloggers are sometimes viewed as cyber-pamphlet distributors one has to wonder if they’ll be part of the cleanup, ahtough the Chinese government already ...

Money Sports Blogging: How to Get 127 People Linking to One Post
Published 2/23/2008 by mhblatt at Juiced Sports Blog*: Writing Enhanced by Flaxseed Oil
... 74 votes, 29 links -Controvery Crash Burn Alley’s email exchange with a blog-hating columnist 69 votes, 41 links -Stuff About Bloggers Busted Coverage’s ...

Another Sad Day For The Guys Who Hate Bloggers
Published 3/17/2008 by Brooks at SPORTSbyBROOKS
... TRIBUNE, we found out that longtime Tribune “basketball expert” Sam Smith was “among 25 veteran Chicago Tribune writers and editors to take voluntary buyouts.“ Mr. Smith, of course, is a dear friend on bloggers everywhere, and will be sorely missed. Sadly, we’ll now have to check Smith off the list of a seemingly growing number of dinosaur media types who have lashed out at folks like us over the past year. The list includes: Bob Costas Tony Kornheiser Bill Conlin Dan Shaughnessy Specifically, we haven’t gotten a chance to weigh in on ...

Bill Conlin's Aim Is Still Dead-On
Published 3/28/2008 by Matt P at The700Level.com - Philly Sports & Minutiae
... at Deadspin, which is well known for being the root of all pamphleteer evil. No matter what he said in the e-mail exchange with Crashburn Alley, or how often I flat out disagree with a stance he takes, he still has at least three things that make him invaluable as a columnist: (1) He may still be the best writer in the Philly sports pages; (2) he's maintained a unique type of access that allows him to print candid statements and still have the trust of many if not all of his subjects; and (3) he has unparalleled experience in covering baseball. ...

Exclusive! Excerpt From Tony La Russa Book “Tonyball”
Published 4/1/2008 by Rudy Gamble at Fantasy Baseball Blog at Razzball
... Following are excerpts from ‘Tonyball - Seeing in the Dark’ by Bill Conlin (Philadelphia Daily News, Sports Reports, Baseball Writers Association of American member, voter for HOF, non-fan of Razzball): ...

MetsBlog: Price of Success
Published 4/28/2008 by joe at Mets Today
... I know, I know, this is supposed to be a blog about the Mets, not about a pissing match between newspaper writers and bloggers. But being part of the blogosphere, this snide remark on the Daily News site gets my goat. There are too many “professional” writers taking pot shots at us “unprofessionals” — from discounting our knowledge, opinions, and sources to slamming us as “pamphleteers“. Not all journalists are against us, of course — only the ones who feel threatened. And I don’t mind reading criticism when ...

Opining on the MSSM-Blogs Ordeal
Published 5/2/2008 by Bill Baer at Baseball Digest Daily
... and I find it hard to argue with anything he wrote, but I’d just like to opine on the “controversy” myself. As someone who has been directly involved in the MSSM (mainstream sports media)-blogs ordeal ( remember Bill Conlin? ) to an extent, I can say that the distance between the two is vast, but it doesn’t have to stay that way. The MSM simply needs to realize that unless legislation passes that essentially privatizes the Internet (and, boy, are ...

Bill Conlin's Sensitivity Once Again Called Into Question [Media Meltdowns]
Published 6/12/2008 by DAULERIO at Deadspin
... r with Crashburn Alley's Bill Baer last November, after Conlin wrote to him "The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler's time on earth-I'm sure he would have eliminated all bloggers." ...

Talking Heads Gone Wild
Published 6/12/2008 by Bill Baer at Baseball Digest Daily
... Conlin – the same guy who wrote to me in an E-mail, "The only positive thing I can think of about Hitler's time on earth – I'm sure he would have eliminated all bloggers" – said of Raul's comment, "Amazing that guy would leave the blueberry harvest to send that off." ...