Cooperstown needs a piece of “The Rock”
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Published 11/30/2007 by Vegas Watch at Vegas Watch
... How is this a good idea? I think it might be time to hang it up, Bill Conlin. Although the Thome/Conlin combo is quite something. This is pretty cool: pitch f/x cards for everyone in the majors. Is it really too much to ask to not irresponsibly speculate and jump to conclusions about the cause of Sean Taylor's death? "College is for losers- in football, and in life". Sure is, Carl. Tim Raines should be in the Hall of Fame. Posnanski's excessively long (4200 words) but brilliant post ...
Rock doesn’t need your spite, he needs your HOF vote
Published 12/2/2007 by Alejandro Leal at umpbump.com
... the context of things.
Take Tim Raines. I was too young to discern the good players from the bad during his playing days (I’d dare say I only became “baseball cognizant” up until the mid nineties – and what a time to do it). So what I know about Raines is what I can learn from some research and from the fact that he was a member of the mythic White Sox staff of ‘94, who could’ve gone all the way.
I’m glad there are some that think he ought to be in the Hall. Baseball Prospectus’ Jay Jaffe said it best: ...
Monday’s Basically Top Five Blog Links
Published 12/3/2007 by Jamie Mottram at Mr. Irrelevant
... ‘86 Rams video, suggests mid-’80s LA may have had a cocaine problem.
The Big Ten apologizes for sending OSU and Illinois to the BCS. Not so graciously, the SEC accepts.
ESPN/ABC’s version of Les Miles’ presser was different. I’m shocked, shocked to find that editing is going on in here!
There’s never mercy for bad coaching. KSK has fun with what may be the defining moment of Gibbs 2.0.
Rock “Raines is a clear-cut HOFer.” Any man who can steal second with a vile in his ...
White Sox to lose Fernando Hernandez in Rule 5 Draft
Published 12/4/2007 by The Cheat <info@southsidesox.com> at South Side Sox
... About The Farm' mode. The Writing is on the wall for Chris Burke. And that writing on the wall might include the White Sox. Source: [ESPN Winter Meetings Blog] Which has since been removed. Steve Phillips shouldn't be allowed to operate a computer. the Indians refused to trade Adam Miller for Delmon Young. Tampa Bay to pick Brian Barton 1st in Thursday's Rule 5 draft? BTB looks on Barton. What does Cooperstown need? A Piece of the Rock.
30 Rock
Published 12/27/2007 by Rich at Baseball Analysts
... (Three WS equals one win. Therefore, Raines was worth about 130 wins during his career.) Using Win Shares Above Bench, Dave Studemund ranked Raines 44th among all position players, post-1900.
Like Win Shares, Wins Above Replacement Value (or WARP3) takes into account defensive value. Raines' 124 career WARP3 ranks 62nd among position players and 83rd among all players (including pitchers).
When you look at all the evidence (including articles by others), Raines is one of the top 50 or 60 position players of all time ...

Well done, John!
I think Tim Raines is also very comparable to Tony Gwynn. Gwynn, 398 win shares and .489 of a base advanced for every plate appearance. Raines, 390 win shares and .547. (And by further comparison, Jim Rice, 282 win shares and only .505.)