Dodger Thoughts: Why Johan Santana Isn't a Dodger

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Pending the negotiation of a long-term contract, the New York Mets have acquired Minnesota Twins ace Johan Santana in what many analysts have decided is a steal, a heist, a grift, a shell game in a darkened subway station. [link]

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No Santana in LA
Published 1/30/2008 by StatsGuru at Baseball Musings
... January 30, 2008 No Santana in LA Jon Weisman looks at why the Dodgers didn't compete for Johan Santana . Posted by David Pinto at ...

THT Daily: Aftermath
Published 1/31/2008 by Bryan Tsao at The Hardball Times
... - At least one Vegas oddsmaker now has the Mets as the second favorites to the World Series. Dodger thoughts - Okay, last thing on Santana for today: Jon Weisman examines why Santana isn't a Dodger. I always thought they were the most logical trade partner for the Twins. At the end of the column is Bob Klapisch's report of the how the end of the deal went down. ...

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