Flagrant Fouls and Ejections
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LABallTalk posted 5/12/2008 from www.laballtalk.com [flag] |
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NBA
Los Angeles Lakers
Utah Jazz
Ronny Turiaf
Ronnie Price
Comments (9)
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flg8torsr1 +1Crazy call, I have no idea which game the refs were watching. Im not worried though, I think even with Kobe's back issues the Lakers will blow out the Jazz by at least 10 on Wednesday! -
LABallTalk I agree. I think Utah won't get the unreasonable calls that they got in Utah, and I don't think they will get as many fouls called against the Lakers. Things will balance out and if it's a straight basketball game then the Lakers are at a gigantic advantage.-
UtesFan89 Unreasonable... you mean like Gasol NEVER getting called for a 3-in-the-key? As far as I know, that rule still exists. Maybe the refs should call that.-
LABallTalk ya, mr fan, i think they should call that three in the key... but then they should also call every push off on the offense on Derron Williams, every elbow by Matt Harpring, and every over the back on Carlos Boozer... apparently, Utah fans hate homecourt advantage after one game as much as LA fans hate homecourt advantage in Utah after 2...-
UtesFan89 It's not homecourt advantage when the Lakers still get the benefit of the doubt in SLC. The Jazz win at home because they (for some odd reason) play much better there... not because of help from the refs.
As for calls to be made... every hook on Kobe. And every Gasol push.
And maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be calling fouls on the Jazz on an Odom drive when no one touches him. Or a foul on the Jazz when Vujacic flops back every other play as if he got elbowed (note... he didn't).
And the FT discrepancy has been a pain... the Jazz are driving to the hoop as much as/more than the Lakers. And while everyone mentions that the Jazz foul a lot, no one seems to mention that the Jazz also get fouled a lot. Or they did...
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LABallTalk well... let's see.... Utah "did" play much better at home, until they went down by 19 at halftime in game 6... hook on kobe = slapping of the hands and hand checkin on matt harpring not being called... fouls on odom, do u remember when kirilenko got an and 1 when lamar odom apprently fouled him on a dunk (odom was 2 feet away from him on the play)...vujacic clearly got hit in the face, i suppose last night when ronnie price or ronnie brewer (don't remember which 1) ran over him it was a flop also right??... ft discrepancy, utah had the most personal fouls in the league for the regular season, how could they possibly shoot more free throws than the lakers in utah??...
with all this being said, they made an amazing comback yesterday and simply started playing a bit too late... nice series tho, great fight til the end...
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UtesFan89 Actually, Odom was right next to him. I haven't seen a replay, so I don't know if it was a foul or not. But Odom was right there. The last game, Vujacic might've been hit (I didn't see the whole game, not sure). But in that OT for sure, it was a flop. Utah also shot a ton of FTs this season (aka they got fouled a ton)... and I know they weren't just settling for jumpers in the playoff series.
Yeah... playing the whole 1st quarter the way they did doomed them. A lack of urgency on their part... highly frustrating.
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szach001 I pretty much wrote on the same theme as well. Such calls based on player-floor contact is unacceptable. -
carty64 I think the biggest mitigating factor was that it was WAY after the whistle. There was a foul on Fisher (I think) and Price just went to the hoop and Turiaf clobbered him. If it was in the normal flow of the game (i.e., not after a whistle) it prob would have been just a flagrant 1 or just a good hard playoff foul.
