Joe Torre Is, Apparently, No Ron Gardenhire
Rumors and Rants —
I just love it when the Wall Street Journal contributes something meaningful to the sports journalism world. It makes me feel warm, fuzzy and conservative. Which in turn makes me feel uncomfortable. Thanks to Baseball Musings, as good a baseball blog as there is, I found this interesting baseball manager grading list that the WSJ put together. It, apparently, ranks out baseball's managers using some methodology I didn't care to read. The stated goal was to see if Joe Torre is really as good as everyone seems to think he is. The results indicate that he is, of course, not nearly as good as his ESPN-fueled reputation. Torre ranks ...
Analyzing and Grading the Managers
Baseball Digest Daily —
The Wall Street Journal wants a cut of the fun we've been having for a long time and offers a chart called ' Grading the Managers ' (Ron Gardenhire ranks first overall, Clint Hurdle last). The related article is called ' Is Joe Torre Worth the Money '. (hat tip to the master...David Pinto) In close games, in which a manager's decisions in baserunning, pitching and substitutions tend to make the most difference, Mr. Torre's teams have struggled in recent years. Over the past three seasons, his record in games tied after the sixth inning is 23-31 -- a .426 winning percentage, compared with .588 in all games. Several of his peers, including Ron Gardenhire of the Minnesota Twins and ...
Wall Street Journal Rates Gibbons Sixth Best Manager (Seriously)
Drunk Jays Fans —
Eat fucking shit all you clueless, pecker-faced, opinionated, wrong-headed, smarmy, insufferable, rage-blinded, whiny, arrogant, ass-faced, uninformed, dipshit, group-thinking, small-penised, Gibbons-hating fucks! OK... that might be a little harsh. But still! Apparently the Wall Street Journal decided to rank the 20 major league managers who had managed at least one full season prior to 2007 (mostly, it seems, to justify some petty grudge with Joe Torre), and guess who was the fifth fucking runner-up? The system they used appears to be all science-like, with stuff like a "methodology" and "results" that most of us laymen would probably have a hard time ...
Jim Leyland: The Second-Worst Manager in Baseball?
Bless You Boys —
... Could the Detroit Tigers have one of the worst managers in baseball? According to a Wall Street Journal ranking, only one other is worse. The WSJ took 20 current major league managers who managed a full season before 2007 and ranked them based on the following three criteria: ...
Could Lou Piniella Be A Better Manager Than Mike Scioscia And Worse Than Ozzie Guillen?
The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog —
Absolutely, if you accept the premise behind an analysis in Friday's Wall Street Journal, which ranked 20 big league managers on:
• Their teams' performance in close games, i.e., games tied through six innings
• Their teams' won-loss record relative to its projected record based on runs scored and allowed (the "Pythagorean" projection)
• How players' individual performances improved or declined under various managers, with allowances made for the players' ages
The managers were ranked in each of the three categories, and the ranks were averaged, giving each manager a composite score.
Piniella turned up ...
Joe Maddon is Equal to Mike Scioscia
DRaysBay —
That's what a recent ranking by the New York Times suggests at least. Using categories such as Close Games, Wins Above Expectation, and Player Performance Maddon finished 14th ahead of Jim Leyland, Joe Torre, Terry Francona, Eric Wedge, and Clint Hurdle. The problem is the system is flawed and for the same reason that ranking general managers or even scouting teams is, uncontrollable variables. Wins Above Expectation, for instance, uses the Pythag Wins total, based on runs scored and allowed, compared to the actual win level. Player Performances are based on, you guessed it, the performances of players under different managers - so Joe Maddon gains huge points for Carlos Pena. ...
Joe Maddon is Equal to Mike Scioscia
Beyond the Box Score —
That's what a recent ranking by the New York Times suggests at least. Using categories such as Close Games, Wins Above Expectation, and Player Performance Maddon finished 14th ahead of Jim Leyland, Joe Torre, Terry Francona, Eric Wedge, and Clint Hurdle. The problem is the system is flawed and for the same reason that ranking general managers or even scouting teams is, uncontrollable variables. Wins Above Expectation, for instance, uses the Pythag Wins total, based on runs scored and allowed, compared to the actual win level. Player Performances are based on, you guessed it, the performances of players under different managers - so Joe Maddon gains huge points for Carlos Pena. Does ...
[THE SATURDAY MORNING REVOLUTION]
Rays Index —
Tampa Bay Devil Dogs (2 days until opening day) DRG here again to get you through the weekend... Yesterday: Reds 6, Tampa Bay Rays 3. The Good: Carl Crawford was 3-4 with 2 doubles...Carlos Pena hit a ball so hard off the top of the wall in right field that he was held to a single...Dioner Navarro continues to hit, adding 2 more hits and is at .366 in March...Matt Garza went 5 allowing only 2 unearned runs...Jason Bartlett and Aki Iwamura combined on yet another picture-perfect double play. The Bad: Miscommunication in center ...
[THE SATURDAY MORNING REVOLUTION] Rays Opening Day Roster Is Now Set
Rays Index —
Tampa Bay Devil Dogs (2 days until opening day) DRG here again to get you through the weekend... Yesterday: Reds 6, Tampa Bay Rays 3. The Good: Carl Crawford was 3-4 with 2 doubles...Carlos Pena hit a ball so hard off the top of the wall in right field that he was held to a single...Dioner Navarro continues to hit, adding 2 more hits and is at .366 in March...Matt Garza went 5 allowing only 2 unearned runs...Jason Bartlett and Aki Iwamura combined on yet another picture-perfect double play. The Bad: Miscommunication in center ...
Terry Francona’s not a good statistical manager — or is he?
Fire Brand of the American League —
Terry Francona’s not a good statistical manager — or is he? Readers of Fire Brand of the American League have been aware of my fandom for manager Terry Francona. Simply put, I feel he’s an excellent manager who could be considered one of the greatest managers in the game today. That perception of mine has taken a hit since I viewed three metrics used to determine how well a manager strategically performs in games. As is wont with most numbers, this discounts the impact a manager has in a clubhouse amongst other variables, but viewed through the lens of strategy, the numbers that result are quite eye-opening. Out of 20 managers that managed at least one full season prior to 2007 — 20 ...
Baseball Today: Monday, March 31
Projo Sox Blog —
... WIZARDS OF WALL STREET: The Wall Street Journal has unveiled a detailed statistical system of rating managers that puts Terry Francona 16th overall, well behind such people as Ned Yost, Charlie Manuel and Willie Randolph. ...
Giants bat Rowand sixth? That’s what makes Bochy MLB’s second-best manager
Morning Buzz —
The Giants released their tentative Opening Day lineup — and by “tentative,” I mean their plans are tentative, although I imagine the lineup itself will be quite tentative as well. Anyway, one name stood out, and I’ll let you figure out the surprise. ============ LF Dave Roberts 1B Rich Aurilia RF Randy Winn C Bengie Molina 2B Ray Durham (THIS IS THE ONE HERE) CF Aaron Rowand (WHAT?!) 3B Jose Castillo SS Brian Bocock P Barry Zito ============= Yep, the highest-paid hitter on the team, the one coming off an All-Star season, can’t get into the top half of the order on the worst-hitting team in baseball. Oh, it’s going to be a glorious season. But then, I’m no Bruce Bochy. The Wall Street ...
Baseball Today: Tuesday, April 1
Projo Sox Blog —
... GARBAGE IN, GARBAGE OUT: Yesterday, you may recall, we linked to a Wall Street Journal statistical analysis that ranked Terry Francona 16th of the 20 managers listed. I made no comment on it, mainly because I thought the study was horribly flawed. (I only linked to it because I thought it was interesting. Not accurate, but interesting.) The flaw: Any system that spits out a conclusion showing a manager who's won two World Series in four years -- in a place where they hadn't won any World Series in the previous eight decades, a place where the pressure ...
Let's try this again
New York Yankees Fan Blog —
... (which we couldn't track down online) to make a case for Torre negatively impacting his players' performances. Scott Proctor would like a word, Mr. Gassko. Here's more on the methods Gassko and Everson used , along with the detailed results. ...
Loserville, U.S.A?
The Bleacher Bums —
... community? or just mired in mediocrity? Comments (2) I don't get how we finish behind Denver when they've won two Super Bowls and a Stanley Cup since the last time the Twins won it all.....Cleveland should also have been much higher on the list....when Forbes does sports they never get it right...remember when they declared Kevin McHale was the best GM in sports a couple of years ago? Posted by daveZ | April 16, 2008 11:49 AM Pssh, Forbes... Don't they know we have the best manager in baseball ? Posted by Than | April 16, 2008 12:36 PM Post a ...
