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Ken Rosenthal, "Sabermetric Group Think," and the 2009 American League MVP Debate
Ken Rosenthal, "Sabermetric Group Think," and the 2009 American League MVP Debate
Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports doesn't spend all his time scrounging for rumors, sharing his brilliant insights such as "The Royals Must Rebuild To Win World Series," and dressing down bloggers for allegedly horrible breaches of ethics . He also writes opinion pieces. "Bloggers" have increasingly ...
MVP award deserves robust debate
MVP award deserves robust debate
msn.foxsports.com — Joe Mauer might well be the AL MVP, but sabermetricians need to accept the fact not everyone... will agree, Ken Rosenthal says. (more) MVP award deserves robust debate
A Free Country
joeposnanski.com — I’m a big fan of Ken Rosenthal. To me, he is everything I want in a baseball... writer. He loves the game, he works like crazy (Robo-thal), he is passionate about things, he breaks stories left and right, and he is open to new ideas. He is also ... (more) A Free Country

Jesus Is The Derek Jeter Of Christianity [Fjm]
Jesus Is The Derek Jeter Of Christianity [Fjm]
deadspin.com — He's good at what he does (for Jeter, it's baseball; for Jesus, it's healing the sick or... whatever). People love him. He says and does the right things at all the right times. He seems like he's probably a pretty solid guy all-around (talking about ... (more) Jesus Is The Derek Jeter Of Christianity [Fjm]
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Ken Rosenthal: Troll Of The Day
Amazin' Avenue — ... worthy of the AL MVP Award, which is true.  Praise is due for realizing that.  He also writes some bizarre things about sabermetrics and even invokes the "it's a free country" platitude.  I think I used to use that in kindergarten.  I'm not going to explore the piece too much here because others have responded to it quite well already. Here are some, including the usual suspects: Rob Neyer Joe Posnanski Tom Tango devil_fingers Bill Baer It appears Rosenthal is familiar ...

A great response to Ken Rosenthal
The Hardball Times — ... http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2009/9/17/1034720/ken-rosenthal-sabermetric-group ...

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