Phil Hughes Mystery Meat Mechanics Part 3

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By Paul Nyman...Even with the best video footage, it still comes down to understanding how the body actually throws the baseball or swings the bat along with the analysis experience...which begs the question, what constitutes video analysis experience? [link]

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  • Phantom Phantom
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    The video of Hughes in high school is skipping and repeating frames.  The video of him at KC was a 66 MPH curveball.

    Therefore, the first video is unreliable.  You can say the same for the second as well.  Why compare a fastball to a curveball?

    How many mechanics geniuses does it take to figure out what's wrong with Hughes?

    Hughes' problem is his "intent" with the lower body.  Specifically, pelvic loading.

    http://i25.tinypic.com/2ynmc20.gif

    On the left he is "floating" his femur up into leg lift.  Look at how "dead" and limp his lower leg is.

    On the right he has a much more aggressive leg lift.  Look at the pelvis tilt upward.  You know that feeling when you have to urinate really bad and try to hold it in?  Well that's what Hughes is feeling on the right.  He is engaging more of his hip flexors and goin muscles.

    On the left, he feels like he had just let it all out and his groin region is very relaxed.

    Again, about the one on the right.  This upward pelvic tilt gets Hughes into his "sit" quicker and smoother.  He doesn't wait for gravity to get him into the sit as he does on the left.

    Posted 5/22/2008 [reply] [flag]
  • PaulNyman PaulNyman
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    Phantom,

    Thank you for your thoughts/opinions.

    Please see:

    http://blog.baseballdigestdaily.com/blog/_archives/2008/5/22/3705579.html

    Posted 5/22/2008 [reply] [flag]
    • Phantom Phantom
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      do not believe it is possible to understand what the Hughes is or is not doing with his muscles from the video information provided.

       I believe it is possible if you can mimic it.  And if you don't know which muscles are used for a specific movement, then how can you teach the movement? 

      As I said previously I really don't see any difference in intent to throw the baseball between what Hughes is doing today versus what he did in high school versus what he did in the minor leagues. In fact I see even greater intent to finish his throw today at the major-league level simply because I believe he's trying to make up for some mechanical inefficiencies I've tried to describe i.e. he's trying to muscle the ball to home plate.

       

      He's trying to muscle the ball because his intent is too late and in the wrong area.  He waits until his shoulders are square to the plate (too late) and uses forward trunk flexion to "apply force" to the baseball (wrong area).  If you search for still pics of Hughes, you will see that his shoulders (upper torso) have rotated nearly 90 degrees, before his arm externally rotates.  His flaw is upstream.

      Here is the full clip:

      http://i25.tinypic.com/rsao8k.jpg

      Gee they both look the same don't they?

      Why is it that I state what I see and that makes me wrong, but you state what you see and that makes you right?  Why is your observation more valid than mine?  You see absolutely no difference in the clips i have posted?  Are you serious?  You are only capable of what you WANT to see.

      Posted 5/23/2008 [reply] [flag]
  • PaulNyman PaulNyman
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    Phatom,

    Your comments or should I say "attitude"  is reminiscent of the young wannabe gunfighter whose trying to make a name for itself by trying to pick a fight with the grizzled old veteran gunfighter with too many notches on his gun handle and has no desire engaging a meaningless banter. Been there done that. 

    You're welcome to your opinion.  And opinions are simply the sum total of our life experiences. And no two people have the same life experiences or knowledge gained from those experiences....what  you see is not the same as what I see.

     It's as simple and or as complicated as that.....

     

     

    Posted 5/23/2008 [reply] [flag]
    • Phantom Phantom
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      Your "rightness" cannot be quantified and neither can mine.  What any one pitching mechanics "guru" or "expert" is doing in regards to presenting what they know and what they believe to be true is eqivalent to preaching a religion.

       It doesn't matter what you know or how much time you have spent on "research".  There will those who believe and follow you and there will be those who won't.  Why can't each expert just "mind there own business"?

      IT's a human behavior problem.  We can't resist it.  I guess I can let you slide. 

      I have a quote for you:

      "Fighting over God is like fighting over an imaginary friend".

      You are entitled to your "beliefs".  You are no more right than I am wrong.

      Posted 5/24/2008 [reply] [flag]

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Published 5/22/2008 by Paul Nyman at Baseball Digest Daily
..... and he is us. I'm happy to see that my articles on Hughes pitching mechanics have at least one or two interested bystanders were willing to put some time in, do some research and post their opinions. Specifically this comment by the Phantom ...

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