The Foibles of Formulas: A Quiz

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Jason Jason posted 12/17/2007 from ballhype.com [flag]

Since its release last year, The Wages of Wins has sparked a number of discussions on how best to evaluate basketball players statistically. Most recently, we have seen a blog debate over this season's top Laker and The Pot Calling the Kettle Black from Dan Rosenbaum and Dave Lewin.

We can all agree that quantifying the performance of basketball players is very challenging, and all of the currently-available techniques have their flaws.

The primary metric used in Wages of Wins to evaluate basketball players is Wins Produced, or Wins Produced per 48 minutes (WP48). Find out how well you know your Wages of Wins by taking the following quiz, which matches up 12 pairs of NBA players and compares their WP48 scores for the 2006-07 season. Good luck!

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Comments (9)

  • tykeenan tykeenan
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    Well, in fairness, Berri is a pretty hilarious guy. Maybe these are just some of his jokes. Don't bloggers have senses of humor?
    Posted 12/17/2007 [reply] [flag]
  • louismg louismg
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    So if I get 11/12, do I pass Joski on some kind of scale?
    Posted 12/17/2007 [reply] [flag]
  • ejb67 ejb67
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    In EVERY case, the player with a lower usage rate ends up looking better to Berri.  I know he discounts usage as important, but these are perfect examples of the absurdity of WoW
    Posted 12/17/2007 [reply] [flag]
  • PostmanE PostmanE
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    12/12. Buahaha. So funny, and so true.
    Posted 12/18/2007 [reply] [flag]
  • chone chone
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    Wow, that's like a HACKING MASS team from Baseball Prospectus. I think my starting 5 would be Snow-Salmons-Wright-Lee-Diop. (Shudder).
    Posted 12/18/2007 [reply] [flag]

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No Your Links: 12/17/07
Published 12/17/2007 by JakeTheSnake <info@bulletsforever.com> at Bullets Forever: Front Page Posts
I'd say last week was pretty good for DeShawn.  He found his touch, got Indy Cornrows' Line of the Night, received Intentional Foul's Weekly Pwnage award, and felt like Hibachi. Speaking of Hibachi, he's back on the blogging circuit. Hopefully Kevin Duckworth's appearance in the Mitchell Report doesn't tarnish his legacy or whatever . Somewhere Isiah Thomas is going "See?  Jared Jeffries is better than LaMarcus Aldridge!" Caron Butler is holding down 10th in the latest Blogger MVP ...

Fantasy Land
Published 12/17/2007 by TZ <info@sactownroyalty.com> at Sactown Royalty: Front Page Posts
Visit the world in which John Salmons was better than Carmelo Anthony and Joe Johnson in 2006-07. Make sure to look past the names to the box score numbers. Truly amazing.

Monday Bullets
Published 12/17/2007 at ESPN.com - True Hoop - Blog
... New ways of attacking The Wages of Wins: a quiz. I have long felt that the point is many of these new statistics may prove to be very valuable, but none are done. Four months before the science fair is no time to pick the best miniature volcano, you know? And I have a feeling this particular science fair might be a decade out. ...

Prepare to re-think the NBA as you know it
Published 12/17/2007 at Ball Don't Lie
... ), has put together a handy little quiz that you should probably take the time to work through. It's likely to blow your mind, but it's just as likely to get you cheering for rebounds with the same fervor that you used to cheer a four-point play with. Twelve people will get that joke. It's also likely to put ...

Think NBA Stats Are Overblown? Then This Quiz Is For You
Published 12/18/2007 by Brett Edwards at FanHouse
... Recently our very own Tom Ziller had a little back and forth with Wages of Wins contributor David Berri. Their argument discussion was way over my head, but basically came down to a conversation of whether or not Andrew Bynum is better (right now) than Kobe Bryant. Um ... yeah. Anyway, there's some further mocking of extreme statistical analysis over at Ballhype today, in the form of a quiz you can take to see how well you know your metrics. The primary metric used in Wages of ...

Tuesday’s Basically Top Five Blog Links
Published 12/18/2007 by Jamie Mottram at Mr. Irrelevant
... One of the most prolific, knowledgeable football bloggers around was behind the scenes with ESPN’s crew yesterday. Swindle Industries expands. The EDSBS mastermind joins Sporting News, starts a college hoops blog. Mike Greenberg’s new gameshow is not good. The Washington Post review couldn’t be more negative. Bonus links: Brady Quinn does good … Bloggers’ choice NBA awards … Fun with NBA statheads … Video of a blogger eating a raw egg … ...

Orlando Magic News for January 31st - J.J., Nicknames, and Hedownage
Published 1/31/2008 by Ben Q Rock <info@thirdquartercollapse.com> at Third Quarter Collapse: Front Page Posts
... David Berri's Wages of Wins method of measuring a player's value has come under a lot of scrutiny; just take this quiz and see the results. Berri just published ...

The Blog Association: Statistical masterminds
Published 22 days ago by Kelly Dwyer at Ball Don't Lie
... (a man who makes some great points from time to time) has a fervent and admirable batch of followers, I still ca'’t convince myself to tell you that someone who values rebounds as much as he does should be included in any top three. I don't agree with him.  ...