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obsessivegiantscompulsive Thanks for the run down!
About Gillaspie, the Giants pick in the list, you note his lack of HR power. That's not as big a thing in AT&T, as the park punishes lefty hitters' HR power, but if he can get moving, he can get triples galore. So does he have gap power? What would you guess to be his HR potential?
Is he really like Bill Mueller, a former Giants 3B? How long do you think he will take coming up, 2-3 years?
2B is currently open with Noonan our best option for the future. He was also selected around the same pick last season. How would you compare him with Noonan? He was once described as Utley without the power.
Still 3B is still the best spot we could use him at. Hopefully he can stick there, once/if he signs, apparently one team said that his contract demands were "delusional".
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b-intellect Man, I always forget about the BallHype comments....sorry for the late response.
1. Yes, he definitely has gap power. He's got a major league quality swing, but he doesn't really have the raw strength, nor the type of swing that would lead to big power. I would probably see his power potential between 12 - 15 homers per year.
2. I've seen the Bill Mueller comparison made by other people and it seems to make sense. I think he'll hit for a better average than Mueller, who was usually in the .290 range except for a couple outlier seasons. The power should be similar as should the plate discipline since Mueller had excellent K:BB ratios. I think 2 - 3 years seems like a proper time table for Gillaspie's advancements.
3. Compared to Noonan, Gillaspie has faster hands, quicker wrists and probably a little shorter swing. Noonan has a bit more loft and looks like a better athlete. I think Noonan's power potential is a little better.
My feeling on player comparisons (especially when the person being compared to is in Utley's class) is they're mostly based on physical appearances rather than baseball talent.
Noonan is young for his level, but the biggest difference right now between him and Gillaspie is the plate discipline. Noonan's K% is about 17.6% now, and he is walking just 3% of the time.
4. As for what positions these guys will ultimately end up at, it will likely sort itself out over time. If Noonan ends up a bust and Gillaspie can't handle third, he'll have a spot at second base open. If Gillaspie can't handle third, and Noonan has second locked down, Gillaspie would be able to move into a sort of utility role and play all over the field if needed.
5. I haven't heard anything about whether he'll sign or not. I suspect he will...no way he goes back for his senior year, not unless he's crazy.
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obsessivegiantscompulsive Thanks for the reply.
Since you brought him up, what is the HR potential you see for Noonan, 15-20 HR, then, since Gillaspie is 12-15? If so, that is still pretty good for a 2B, I would think.
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b-intellect I think both are a little difficult to project right now. I think both come out to around 15 homeruns, but we need to see how Noonan fills out his body and perhaps adjusts his swing as he gets older. Same thing for Gillaspie except it's less about his body filling out and more about how well his swing translates to using a wood bat.
12-15 homeruns would be solid for a second baseman, yes, but I think the more important aspect for Gillaspie will be how well he gets on base (whether through batting average or by walk) because that's going to be the biggest asset he brings with him.
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Breaking Down the Draft: Picks 36 - 44
BBTF's Baseball Primer Newsblog —
Breaking Down the Draft: Picks 36 - 44 From Michael Montgomery (Royals) to Wade Miley (D-backs). Below is an excerpt on Braves pick Brett DeVall: DeVall gives Atlanta a pitcher who will generate grounders with his sinking fastball and swings-and-misses with his change-up; however, his lack of velocity, relative lack of projection and merely average breaking ball will limit his upside to that of a middle-of-the-rotation starter.
Smells Like Padres in Here - Thursday Edition
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... be subjected to this.
Hensley says he's the guy from 2005.
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Daily Farm Report - 7/24/08
Future Redbirds —
... The Hardball Times continued its series of breaking down draft picks. This entry covers picks 36-44, which includes the Cardinals Supplemental First Round pick ...
Gameday Thread, #102: 7/25 vs. Giants
AZ Snakepit —
... Some bits of news. Juan Cruz will throw tonight on a rehab assignment, then probably again on Monday - and if those two outings go well, he'll be back with us in time for the tail of the Padres series, or early in the Dodgers' one. However, Justin Upton is still at least a week away and hasn't even started taking real swings as yet. Our recent draft pick [#43 overall], Wade Miley is scouted by Alex Eisenberg over at The Hardball Times, as part of his look at picks #36-43. And I was interviewed by Troy of FullOfSports.com, and we discussed the ...
Weekend links
Friar Forecast —
... If you like the Padres and baseball cards, you’ll probably like The Electric Friar. fwiw, up until a couple of years ago, I used to be a big baseball card collector. I don’t buy many cards anymore, but that could easily change sometime down the line …
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Gillaspie Swings
El Lefty Malo —
... It's official, the Giants' second draft pick Conor Gillaspie is on board. He got nearly $1 million to sign, according to reports. Here's a look at his swing (scroll down to #37). He's 21 and a polished collegiate hitter; it'll be interesting to see if the Giants try to get him a bunch of pro at-bats before the summer is over. This is just a point of comparison: Tim Lincecum went to short-season ball for two games when he signed in August 2006 then finished the year with High-A San Jose.
TCR Tuesday Notes
The Cub Reporter (TCR) | A Chicago Cubs Blog —
... teases Cubs fans that Geovany Soto could have been an Orioles as part of the Sammy Sosa trade back in 2005. - For those worried about the Cubs collapsing in September, don't forget Lou does his best work in September. The numbers in that article don't account for 2007, where the Cubs were 17-12. - Alex Eisenberg, who runs things at Baseball Intellect, does some video breakdowns of 2008 draftees at The Hardball Times. Here's Andrew Cashner's and Ryan Flaherty's videos. ...

