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Alex Rios made his first All-Star game in 2007. And if the Jays had their way? He'd be on a plane to San Francisco, says Ken Rosenthal. [link]

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Reds, Astros, Cards Interested In Rusch
Published 12/5/2007 by Tim Dierkes at MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
... Glendon Rusch is attempting a comeback, and the Reds, Astros, and Cardinals are interested.  Rusch played under the Reds' Dusty Baker in Chicago. ...

Jay to the Bay?
Published 12/5/2007 by StatsGuru at Baseball Musings
There's talk of the Blue Jays shipping Alex Rios to the Giants for either Lincecum or Cain : The proposed trade of outfielder Alex Rios for either San Francisco's Matt Cain or Tim Lincecum rests with the Giants' decision-makers, according to major-league sources. The Toronto Blue Jays will not add major-league pitching to their offer, sources say, and they also are unlikely to move right-hander A.J. Burnett in a separate deal. Adding Cain or Lincecum while subtracting Burnett would be counter-productive for a team trying to build the best possible rotation to compete with the ...

Giants Make Compelling Offer to Blue Jays
Published 12/5/2007 by Mr. Fleece at MLB Fleece Factor
... , but it is popping up in news once again today. In one of the more interesting rumors we’ve come across this week, the Giants and Blue Jays could still be discussing a deal centered around Blue Jays outfielder Alex Rios, and Giants starting pitcher Tim Lincecum (or Matt Cain?). Ken Rosenthal insists the Blue Jays will not include another major league arm in their deal. It has been suggested that Brian Sabean, Giants GM, would be seeking more than just Rios. ...

Hot Stove Update
Published 12/5/2007 by Mantlemurcer at My Pinstripes
... K-Ros also reports that the Rangers are talking to Scott Boras about both Eric Gagne, and Corey Patterson, who they see as a stop gap measure for centerfield. ...

Got Clause? No Award: BBWAA
Published 12/5/2007 by Jeff Kallman at The MLB Source
... SANTANA IN SEATTLE?—Not even close, considering what the Boston Red Sox and the Minnesota Twins are trying to get done (with or without Jacoby Ellsbury in the picture), but the word now comes that the Mariners have eyes for Johan Santana, too, according to Fox Sports’s Ken Rosenthal. ...

Rosenthal Checks In
Published 12/5/2007 by The Biscuit at MLB Fleece Factor
Good old Ken Rosenthal checks in with some late afternoon rumors on Fox Sports. Here we go: Looks to be a little bit of a snag in the Johan to the Sox deal. At this time, it seems like other teams are going to pounce and see if they can overwhelm Minnesota and grab the star lefty. The Mariners could offer Adam Jones and Brendan Morrow among others, which would be a real nice deal for the Twins. Jones would take over CF tomorrow and Morrow could slide into the rotation or be used as Joe Nathan’s replacement if they trade him. Alex Rios is there for ...

MLB Rumors: Johan Santana Update, Jason Bay Too!
Published 12/5/2007 at FakeTeams
... Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com says the mariners could be back in on Santana because "the Mariners, rival executives say, are intent on making a splash and acquiring a big-name starting pitcher, with Orioles lefty Erik Bedard another potential target." ...

Report: Everyone in baseball except the Royals and Rays get into Santana race
Published 12/5/2007 by The Sports Hernia at The Sports Hernia Blog
According to Ken Rosenthal's 53rd update of the hour and 563 other websites, the Yankees, Red Sox, Mets, Mariners, Dodgers, Indians, Rockies, Cardinals, Tigers, Giants, Blue Jays, Orioles, Angels, White Sox, Athletics, Cubs, Brewers, Rangers, Phillies, Braves, Astros, Pirates, Nationals, Diamondbacks, Marlins, Reds and Padres are all engaged in the Santana talks. Additionally, no one knows shit.

Winter meeting roundup: Phillies out of Kuroda race
Published 12/6/2007 by J. Weitzel at Beerleaguer - Phillies Blog, Baseball News, Trade Rumors & Spirits
... Rosenthal notes that Ohman, who relies on the breaking ball, was much better away from Wrigley Field, where he angered the club by claiming to have a bum shoulder, which the club denied. Lifetime, Ohman has held left-handers to a .196 average. Yo Phillies ... With one mega-deal finalized, rumors continue to swirl in the Music City, few of which involve the Phillies. A handful of national sites serve as a clearinghouse for the latest rumblings. Here are the links: [ ESPN , FoxSports , SI ].

Winter Meetings Day 4/ Rule 5 Draft Open Thread
Published 12/6/2007 by royalsreview <info@royalsreview.com> at Royals Review
... but the Rule 5 draft. It's called the Rule 5 draft because the section of the Official Rules that covers the draft just happens to be Rule 5 in the book. • The Royals aren't concerned about Guillen's past, so don't even bring it up, ok!?! • With the Royals hanging around the Kuroda and Fukudome chases, our Eppenweb suggests Hillman is a reason why. • The Mets have entered the Santana fray. • Rosenthal beats the drum for Santana-to-Seattle. • Scott Rolen wants out in St. Louis, Tony La ...

daze of our lives
Published 12/6/2007 by lboros <info@vivaelbirdos.com> at Viva El Birdos
... between rolen and la russa seems to have deteriorated due to bad communication (or total lack thereof); there's a danger that a similar dynamic could pollute the relationship between the fan base and team --- probably not to the point of divorce, but certainly to the point of trial separation. there are two sides to every relationship. fans have to have realistic expectations; the franchise has to cultivate them. it's not happening that way right now. marketplace note: milton bradley's docs like what they see, according to ken rosenthal: ...

If there’s something happening here, what it is ain’t exactly clear
Published 12/7/2007 by egrissom at Philliesflow.com
... says the Phils will be one of nine teams to watch Kris Benson pitch on December 17 in Arizona. Not the whole team, though. This article says the Devil Rays are interested in Houston’s Luke Scott who you would guess would also be of interest to the Phillies. This ...

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The Case Against....

According to this article , the Blue Jays and Giants are talking about Alex Rios for half of Caincecum, though the Jays would prefer Cain. Sabean has referred to the potential deal as "interesting." The case against the insanity, now with bullet ...
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Giants & Jays Talking About Lincecum/Rios Swap

According to the Toronto Globe and Mail, the Toronto Blue Jays have communicated with the San Francisco Giants about moving star right-fielder Alex Rios to San Francisco in return for youngster Tim Lincecum. It was noted that Toronto asked for Matt Cain first, but will glady accept Lincecum.
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